new bird id help
I've been seeing so many new birds that I can't identify and it's driving me crazy! I just started bird watching abt the beginning of the year or maybe December.
Anyway, this is a small red bird, abt the size of a goldfinch, with black and white wing and tail feathers that look zebra-like. It looks like somebody took an american gold finch and dipped it in red paint and all the gold parts turned red. The difference is the red bird does not have the black patch on the top of the head like the goldfinch does.
It's not a house finch or a purple finch (smaller and redder), and it's not a scarlet tanager (bcs of zebra striped wings), not a vermillion flycatcher, nothing I have seen on the internet after hours of searching.
2 of them came back this morning but were gone by the time I could grab my binoculars. Any ideas?

Sorry, I accidentally posted twice and can't figure out how to delete.
And not a white-winged crossbill? Maybe an exotic. Where do you live?
What Atlamol said or a pine grosbeak, perhaps?
tj
Atlamol, I was just coming to post a pic I found of a white winged crossbill! But there are 2 probs: 1) I haven't gotten a good look at the beAk yet and 2) I live in northwest GA. My book shows there may be a pocket of red crossbills in this area but does not show any white winged presence. It also says they very rarely show up at feeders but that's where I'm seeing these birds.
tsugajunki, I also thought pine grosbeak for a while but then realized it's larger than the bird I'm seeing.
There are quite a few of these in my yard - maybe up to 10. What in the world would they be doing so far away from their territory? According to my book (Peterson) they don't even migrate here.
Well, if it looks like a white-winged crossbill (except for verifying the bill), then I'd lean that way. Birds can and do show up sometimes where books say they are rare. Keep those binoc's (and/or camera) handy and let us know about the bill.
tj
If it were just one or two birds, or if you lived in someplace like Florida or southern California where there are a lot of exotic birds gone wild, I would just shrug them off as escaped cage birds. But ten birds in northwest Georgia sounds like a native species. There are no Georgia records for white- winged crossbills, not even as accidentals (as you note, there are for red crossbills). Are there females in that flock? What do they look like? Gotta get a picture! And if they do turn out to be w.w. Crossbills and you have a good picture, there is probably a Georgia rare bird committee that would like to see it.
My binoculars are borrowed and not very good and I can't get anywhere near the birds - they fly away at the sight of me. My real camera is broken and my phone camera is worthless. So I may never know. It already seems there are fewer of them.
There is a fantastic app called " Merlin Bird ID" - t's fun to use and I've found it very easy to determine what birds I have using it . Try it -fabulous!
Shoot! I don't have enough space to install it. I'll have to wait until I can figure out what can be deleted.
Thanks! Can't wait to give it a try!